Comments on: The Problems with Popularity: “Catagenesis” and Other Buzz Words https://rose.geog.mcgill.ca/wordpress/?p=749 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:59:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.8.10 By: Jones https://rose.geog.mcgill.ca/wordpress/?p=749&cpage=1#comment-44662 Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:59:55 +0000 http://rose.geog.mcgill.ca/wordpress/?p=749#comment-44662 About “buzz words”: I like to think of them as mere rhetoric. Words like freedom, liberty, justice, even democracy, are words touted by many people to argue a position that is often wrought with intense emotion and political implications. They are forceful words because their meanings are obscure. Many have no agreed upon definition – like sustainability. Almost anyone can use the word for one’s own ends. The reason, therefore, that I think such empty words as sustainability and freedom become so popular is that anybody can act in the name of sustainability and freedom with respect to their own interpretation of the word.

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By: merle https://rose.geog.mcgill.ca/wordpress/?p=749&cpage=1#comment-44562 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:11:47 +0000 http://rose.geog.mcgill.ca/wordpress/?p=749#comment-44562 Following the same line of thought as Crocus, I think that this critique of using “buzz words” in science really bites when one considers beyond the discourse scientists have with their peers. Of course, “buzz words” can already be seen as problematic within a community of scientists belonging to different disciplines, as is the case, for instance, at the MSE. Having in mind Dr. John Holmes lecture on science and policy making, however, it seems to me that privileging the use of a jargon made of “buzz words” where it is not always necessary is adding an unnecessary difficulty to an already problematic discussion among scientists, policy makers and the public.

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By: crocus https://rose.geog.mcgill.ca/wordpress/?p=749&cpage=1#comment-44232 Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:56:53 +0000 http://rose.geog.mcgill.ca/wordpress/?p=749#comment-44232 Well said. I think that this is precisely why there is more public discussion about environmental issues (why it is bad) and not about environmental action (what we can do about it). People feel overwhelmed by environmental crises and yet all they hear is jargon without knowing the meaning behind it: “I believe that sustainability is a good thing, but I don’t know how to live in a sustainable fashion” (what it actually means to put it into practice). These “buzz words” do not help to show the connection between ones actions and the outcome of those actions

Perhaps this is where science needs to up it game – instead of touting words that only carry meaning if you know the basis behind it (resilience only means something if you understand the adaptive cycle and what the consequence of “non-resilience” is), we need to put more emphasis on how these concepts work in everyday life. This is what I felt lacked in the presentation by Homer-Dixon, and indeed in many public presentations about such concepts.

I think this also goes Sieber’s comment about letting society off the hook for what we are doing today. If we know how our actions today translate into the breakdown tomorrow we are more likely to work against it instead of waiting for the catastrophe to occur.

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By: sieber https://rose.geog.mcgill.ca/wordpress/?p=749&cpage=1#comment-44225 Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:50:41 +0000 http://rose.geog.mcgill.ca/wordpress/?p=749#comment-44225 The reliance on the catastrophe for change reminds me so much of Naomi Klein’s new book, The Shock Doctrine. I realize he urges us to act before the catastrophe occurs and to look for the sliver lining when it does. But I wonder if, just a little bit, we get absolved of any contribution to the drivers for the catastrophe or of any need to unravel the complex interactions. Instead we are allowed to enter into a nihilistic fugue while waiting for the cataclysm to happen.

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